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A Guide to Taipii Names

Direlda
Volunteer
Jen: 77
Quote by Tettix:
Your username is already pretty close, I think. I don't think there's a canonical way to get the English ch sound for the Taipii, but unofficially I'm inclined to consider that part of the lax pronunciation rules. I don't think there's a single member of the dev/mod team who actually pronounces "iichii" as "iishii," for example. Ey isn't really a common Taipii thing, but ei and ai both work well, possibly ay. Nas is a good way to deal with the ns ending, though any vowel on either side (or even both sides) of the s could work, depending on personal preference. Personally I'd be more inclined to use e, if only because in English es is also a common plural ending, so the English-speaking reader is more likely to read "Chaines" the same way as "Chains," but that's entirely up to you.


So the English "ch" sound is similar to a "t" followed by the English "sh," though there's a bit more to it than that. Since Taipii requires most consonants to be followed by a vowel, you would have to insert a vowel (I recommend a "u" as it can be a fairly invisible vowel) between the "t" and "sh." The other way is to just keep it as the Taipii "ch" like Tettix says, since I'm probably one of the few people who does pronounce it like English "sh."

Cheynas, if you want the vowel sound that is in "chains" then use the Taipii ei/ai/ay sound (not sure if some of those will be removed or not) for the first vowel.

According to my research, "s" is one of the few consonants which is allowed to end a syllable without a vowel following it. So you don't have to add a vowel after it.

And when you say it should be pronounced as "chains" do you mean the whole name sounds like "chains" or just the vowel sound in the first part? Because the "s" in "chains" is pronounced as "z."

As your name is currently written it would be pronounced as: She (as in chef) + i (as in sit) + nas (as in nasty).

I'll upload what it'll look in Taipii script tomorrow, as it is time for bed.

Quote by Fang299:
would it be possible to get a direct translation list of all letters? kinda written like we would write the alphabet?


I have something like that, though I would need permission from Jeff to give it to people. And you'd only be getting the part of the document that relates to spelling and pronunciation.
Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:46am
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Direlda
Volunteer
Jen: 77
So, Cheynas, if you were trying to approximate the English "ch" sound you would have the following:

Tucheinas

And if you decided to stick with the English "sh" sound and either read it like English "ch" or read it like "sh" you would have:

Cheinas

Both of those are spelled to approximate the vowel sound in "chains." If you want to keep the spelling you have, then the Taipii would pronounce the name differently, but you could train us to pronounce it differently.

And more in general:
According to my research, the following consonants appear to be allowed as syllable-final: k, l, r, s, v, n/nn*
*Note: "n" and "nn" appear to be in complementary distribution--"nn" occurs following "y" and "n" occurs following any other vowel.

So if my research is correct, then "Ariiel" is actually following Taipii spelling. And the syllables of "Antilia" would be An-ti-li-a, which means that it also is following Taipii spelling.
Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:10pm
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Tettix
Design Team, Art Team
Jen: M
Small note: I realized a little while after typing up my own text walls that there is, in fact, a fairly prominent example of the "ns" ending on a Taipii word. Sans as in the Sans au'Sul. I think it's still safe to say that this is a pretty rare thing, though.
Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:00pm
Lokosicek
Moderator Team, Writing Team
Jen: M
How will be the apostroph symbol ' handled in the script? Thanks
Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:34pm
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Direlda
Volunteer
Jen: 77
Yeah, "ns" is one that is rather rare--in my documentation I have a question mark after it as a syllable-final consonant because it only shows up once in my data. "Lantros" is another that provides some difficulty as it's either "nt" at the end of a syllable or "tr" at the beginning of a syllable.
Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:41pm
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Tettix
Design Team, Art Team
Jen: M
Quote by Lokosicek:
How will be the apostroph symbol ' handled in the script? Thanks


Quite a lot like the apostrophe you're used to, really. An example using the Vulan goddess's name:


I've been hesitant to go too much into Taipiiscript here since the thing is, most Taipii probably don't know what their own name looks like in it, the gods being the biggest exception. It's supposed to be a dead script only found on very old documents. There's supposed to be another, simpler, more versatile script used in modern times. I haven't gotten the look I want for it quite yet, but that one is in the works.

Granted, original intentions aside, there seems to be a very positive response to Taipiiscript and it's gotten quite a bit of use so far, so I can't say for certain how often it will be used in the future.
Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:00pm
Lokosicek
Moderator Team, Writing Team
Jen: M
Thanks a lot, Tettix. Although the apostroph will prolly get confused with "i" on occasion I guess.
Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:09pm
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Tettix
Design Team, Art Team
Jen: M
I actually have a rule for the placement of the vowel accents. They move around according to where they look good on the consonant, but they're always on the left side of the central stem. The apostrophe sits right on the stem, mostly trailing off to the right.
Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:26pm
FibrielSolaer
Jen: 12
... Geez this name system is almost as complicated as the one in my fictional world (which has multiple invented languages!)
Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:02am
autobotgirl97
Jen: 14
Thank you! this is very helpful.
Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:18am
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