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Armors and Wildlife

Raccoonstorm
Jen: 30
Hi there!
I was noticing how there weren't too many active discussions or anything.
Reading a discussion on the relevance of boob plates on armor in fictional games, it made me start to think about the armors that would exist in Antilia- A feature that I, personally, have not seen very much of/explanations of.

That also made me start to think on another train of thought: Fur and leather armors exist in real life. Would that be taboo in their society, since all taipii would possess such items? How would you tell if it was Taipii leather you're wearing, or a wild animal? Scary. Wildlife and fauna have been theorized a lot, but the thing I'm most interested in is the types of animals. So far, all I've seen are bug-like creatures. Would we have mammals? How about birds?



So, what sort of armors and clothing items would you like to see?
Why, why not? What makes you think they would be a good addition, or efficient at their job.(Protecting you, sillies!)


What sort of animals/fauna would you like to see?
What would they eat, their relevance in the game?
Ooh, possible pets/mounts! Haha!



With all the koura and iichii about, I highly suspect chitin armors will be a thing.

Really want a giant bird that can swoop down and eat us




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Friday, April 10, 2015 8:07am
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Thagrahn
Jen: 17
Hmm, Armor and where it comes from is one thing that you don't normally think about when dealing with normal RPG and fantasy games, but does seem to be relevant to the Taipii and the world of Antilia.

Metal armor has obvious answers, but the equivalent for Leather and Hide would raise a lot of moral questions regarding the Taipii.

Some types of plants could be made into Ropes, Cords, and Cloth. Not sure if they would work as well as Leather.
Chitin created from treated koura and iichii exoskeletons would make some since, but still may not truly do the work of Leather.
If there are mammals, then what is the Taipii moral view of hunting them, or owning them as pets.
Reptilians present a route that doesn't have as many moral issues since it's not as connected to the Taipii.
Birds would not provide skins useful for making armor, but could be natural enemies of the koura and iichii.

This is really a hard area to think in without the reference of the Taipii moral outlook on the other creatures of Antilia.
Friday, April 10, 2015 10:31am
blueslyster

Jen: 100
As long as it's covers all the vital organs and weak spots for all, I'm fine with it.

...but if any is made out of Felo I'm gonna go on a tirade.
Friday, April 10, 2015 12:41pm
Sly da' Talikus aka LongSly
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Liska Bystrouska

Jen: 50
Quote by Thagrahn:

If there are mammals, then what is the Taipii moral view of hunting them, or owning them as pets.

I don't think it would pose a huge moral dilemma for most Taipii, at least as far as those mammals which are not too similar to any of the Taipii races. After all, humans are mammals, but we hunt and eat and use the hides of other mammals. There may be species which are regarded as "taboo" for some cultural/religious reasons (as in Western culture, we don't eat dogs and cats, that sort of thing).
Friday, April 10, 2015 4:51pm
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ArgonFox

Jen: 22
This really is an interesting question, since there's very little to replace cured leathers when it comes to armour construction. Lacquered cloth can come close in durability, but still isn't as flexible as a soft leather. Cloth padding for heavier armour (metal or chitin both) would erode far faster under heavy use and end up overall heavier than equivalent leather padding.

That we haven't seen the full ecology of Forra yet, to know if there are reptiles or another ready source of hides to make leathers from, is the biggest blank in the answer. For all we know, there might be a form of tree bark that has the same overall properties as leather when treated properly.

Of course the other big question is, for a very heavily magical focused race, would the taipii actually use armours that correlate to ours? Would they more create armour from materials that are more readily enchantable or in styles that are more focused on the protection that an enchantment can provide over the protection of the armour itself? Especially given that from what we've seen, the only threats they've had to combat are magical (the Chatoi) or environmental. (The iichii, some of which spit fire)
Friday, April 10, 2015 6:14pm
Anadais da'Lantros, Wanderer.
UgleCatSweater
Jen: 11
I think that a trading and gifting system should be included in the game! My friends had surplus koura, but they couldn't give them or trade them to me.
Friday, April 10, 2015 7:52pm
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jeff
Lead Developer
Jen: M
Quote by ArgonFox:
This really is an interesting question, since there's very little to replace cured leathers when it comes to armour construction.

We've speculated that the Taipii have discovered chemical ways to manipulate the koura's chitin for crafting purposes, being able to soften it to a rubbery leather-like state as well as harden it.
Saturday, April 11, 2015 6:45am
Jeff Leigh - Lead Developer - Right Brain Games
ToryWarlock
Jen: 11
it would be so awesome if there are pets, mounts n' tradin' n' giftin' system too
Thursday, April 16, 2015 5:02am
Direlda
Volunteer
Jen: 77
Quote by ArgonFox:
For all we know, there might be a form of tree bark that has the same overall properties as leather when treated properly.

Of course the other big question is, for a very heavily magical focused race, would the taipii actually use armours that correlate to ours? Would they more create armour from materials that are more readily enchantable or in styles that are more focused on the protection that an enchantment can provide over the protection of the armour itself? Especially given that from what we've seen, the only threats they've had to combat are magical (the Chatoi) or environmental. (The iichii, some of which spit fire)


I like both of these ideas. Since this is a fantasy world, I do think it is a good idea to explore alternate materials for armors. Another idea--some sort of koura-produced silk that is strong enough to serve as a protective material when woven.
Wednesday, April 22, 2015 4:29pm
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jeff
Lead Developer
Jen: M
Quote by ToryWarlock:
it would be so awesome if there are pets, mounts n' tradin' n' giftin' system too

Pets and mounts will both likely be included in the game (Jidou in particular play a big role in moving things around, to the point it's kind of hard to ignore). As for trade and gifting, it'll probably be like a lot of multi-player games - you simply drop the item into the world and another player can take them. (Like the Elder Scrolls games, I'd like it if you can take and place objects anywhere - although taking some objects may be considered theft, of course.)

Quote by Direlda:
... Another idea--some sort of koura-produced silk that is strong enough to serve as a protective material when woven.

As far as cloth we know so far there is a cotton-like material made from plant fibers that is used to make hardier cloths like tents and cloaks and work clothes. Could be used for some light armor, but it would certainly be on the low-end of the scale.

Silk also exists - it is a product of the silk spiders which commonly build nest/webs over shallow ravines just west of Lantros. I imagine the silk being too delicate to be of much use in armor, and is more commonly used for decorative clothing.
Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:04am
Jeff Leigh - Lead Developer - Right Brain Games
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